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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-794</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post updated (sorry for the long time i've missed here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post updated (sorry for the long time i&#8217;ve missed here)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonim Anonimatuum</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonim Anonimatuum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And MythBuntu engine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And MythBuntu engine?</p>
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		<title>By: urfe</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>urfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 19:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should do the following test: modify the Nodoka engine, find the definition ('engine "nodoka"') and replace it with something like this:

	engine "nodoka"
	{
		animation		= FALSE
		contrast		= 1.0
		gradients		= FALSE
		listviewheaderstyle	= 0
		listviewstyle		= 1
		menubarstyle		= 0
		roundness		= 0
		scrollbarstyle		= 2
		stripes			= FALSE
	}

I get 5.3 sec. after the modifications (removing gradients and setting the roundness of the buttons to 0 (none)), 10.8 before.

The roundness of the buttons is the key performance factor in this tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should do the following test: modify the Nodoka engine, find the definition (&#8217;engine &#8220;nodoka&#8221;&#8216;) and replace it with something like this:</p>
<p>	engine &#8220;nodoka&#8221;<br />
	{<br />
		animation		= FALSE<br />
		contrast		= 1.0<br />
		gradients		= FALSE<br />
		listviewheaderstyle	= 0<br />
		listviewstyle		= 1<br />
		menubarstyle		= 0<br />
		roundness		= 0<br />
		scrollbarstyle		= 2<br />
		stripes			= FALSE<br />
	}</p>
<p>I get 5.3 sec. after the modifications (removing gradients and setting the roundness of the buttons to 0 (none)), 10.8 before.</p>
<p>The roundness of the buttons is the key performance factor in this tests.</p>
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		<title>By: urfe</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>urfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 11:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi gianvito,

you should test the Bluecurve engine. Fastest on my system (Q9450).

Urfe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi gianvito,</p>
<p>you should test the Bluecurve engine. Fastest on my system (Q9450).</p>
<p>Urfe</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not 1) sort the graph by time (it doesn't seem to be sorted at all right now) and 2) label each bar with number of seconds?  I'm not sure what software you're using, but it ought to be feasible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not 1) sort the graph by time (it doesn&#8217;t seem to be sorted at all right now) and 2) label each bar with number of seconds?  I&#8217;m not sure what software you&#8217;re using, but it ought to be feasible.</p>
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		<title>By: anung</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>anung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thnx man..
this is very usefull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thnx man..<br />
this is very usefull</p>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post updated

Nodoka ----&#62; 0.7 version
Added QtCurve (@Chris)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post updated</p>
<p>Nodoka &#8212;-&gt; 0.7 version<br />
Added QtCurve (@Chris)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about testing QtCurve for GTK? I've found this engine to be extremely fast, on par with Simple and Mist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about testing QtCurve for GTK? I&#8217;ve found this engine to be extremely fast, on par with Simple and Mist!</p>
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		<title>By: odcinek.blag &#187; wydajne GTK2?</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>odcinek.blag &#187; wydajne GTK2?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogu Gianvito’s pojawiły się ostatnio ciekawe wyniki benchmarku różnych silników GTK2, wykonane przy pomocy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: .:Pixels not found:. &#187; Najszybsze GTK2 na świecie</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>.:Pixels not found:. &#187; Najszybsze GTK2 na świecie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wirtualna dusza wzięła ten temat całkiem niedawno na warsztat. Bez zbędnych ceregieli wykonała testy, których wynik poniżej prezentuję. Napomknę jeszcze, jakiego sprzętu używał testujący:  * [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wirtualna dusza wzięła ten temat całkiem niedawno na warsztat. Bez zbędnych ceregieli wykonała testy, których wynik poniżej prezentuję. Napomknę jeszcze, jakiego sprzętu używał testujący:  * [...]</p>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post updated

Nodoka -----&#62; 0.6.99.1-1
Added charts to gtk-engines and xfce-gtk-engines pages</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post updated</p>
<p>Nodoka &#8212;&#8211;&gt; 0.6.99.1-1<br />
Added charts to gtk-engines and xfce-gtk-engines pages</p>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stavrosg
Hi,
Excuse me I didn't understood what you want to say...
What do I have to add to the chart to every individual engine test?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stavrosg<br />
Hi,<br />
Excuse me I didn&#8217;t understood what you want to say&#8230;<br />
What do I have to add to the chart to every individual engine test?</p>
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		<title>By: stavrosg</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>stavrosg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Whoops... I was looking at the tests visible on the window, and not the total time)
Interesting how different colours &#38; sprites  affect performance.

Can you please add charts for each individual test?
Or just a csv file with the data would do, too.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Whoops&#8230; I was looking at the tests visible on the window, and not the total time)<br />
Interesting how different colours &amp; sprites  affect performance.</p>
<p>Can you please add charts for each individual test?<br />
Or just a csv file with the data would do, too.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: stavrosg</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>stavrosg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder why the Xfce Engines yield all the same results; (a nanosecond here and there is in the area of statistical error) They are different colour schemes for the same engine (gtk-xfce-engine).

So you could just leave all but one out and spare a whole page from the article :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder why the Xfce Engines yield all the same results; (a nanosecond here and there is in the area of statistical error) They are different colour schemes for the same engine (gtk-xfce-engine).</p>
<p>So you could just leave all but one out and spare a whole page from the article :)</p>
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		<title>By: neri</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>neri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is an interesting benchmark, however when it comes to gtk-engines I'm all about stability. I have seen so many engines causing crashes of applications in weird spots. In many cases these engines use cairo_* function calls, where as engines with native gtk calls like xfce seem to be less error prone. I don't blame it on the engine entirely, in many cases that might be caused by some intercation of libraries. So I'm surprised to see that xfce engine is actually that fast because it is also very very stable! I say that out of the experience of closing bugs in ArchLinux with: "Use another gtk engine and you'll be fine."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is an interesting benchmark, however when it comes to gtk-engines I&#8217;m all about stability. I have seen so many engines causing crashes of applications in weird spots. In many cases these engines use cairo_* function calls, where as engines with native gtk calls like xfce seem to be less error prone. I don&#8217;t blame it on the engine entirely, in many cases that might be caused by some intercation of libraries. So I&#8217;m surprised to see that xfce engine is actually that fast because it is also very very stable! I say that out of the experience of closing bugs in ArchLinux with: &#8220;Use another gtk engine and you&#8217;ll be fine.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated with experience &#38; industrial engines</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated with experience &amp; industrial engines</p>
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		<title>By: dosnlinux</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>dosnlinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's some more. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/

You got most of them, but I think you're missing eXperience-engine, and gtk-industrial-engine. There may be others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some more. <a href="http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/" rel="nofollow">http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/</a></p>
<p>You got most of them, but I think you&#8217;re missing eXperience-engine, and gtk-industrial-engine. There may be others.</p>
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		<title>By: N3RD3X Idéias Livres &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gráfico sobre o desempenho das engines em GTK</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>N3RD3X Idéias Livres &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gráfico sobre o desempenho das engines em GTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pibarnas
Updated with rezlooks engine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pibarnas<br />
Updated with rezlooks engine</p>
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		<title>By: pibarnas</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>pibarnas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about rezlooks gtl-engine???</description>
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		<title>By: Teste de desempenho em engines GTK</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Teste de desempenho em engines GTK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] de desempenho em engines GTK    “Acabei de ler no planeta do arch linux um tópico sobre a performance de engines e temas para gtk através da ferramenta gtkpref (até então [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Relaxing Wallpaper with a comfortable gtk engine :) &#171; Gianvito&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Relaxing Wallpaper with a comfortable gtk engine :) &#171; Gianvito&#8217;s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about nodoka... i added it to the test because it is part of Fedora... I wanted to give a general purpose to the test... 
However... We all know Murrine is a great engine... It combines beauty and speed together :)... 
Aurora is handsome to see... but it has to do more if it wants to be a very usable engine... especially on old machines</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about nodoka&#8230; i added it to the test because it is part of Fedora&#8230; I wanted to give a general purpose to the test&#8230;<br />
However&#8230; We all know Murrine is a great engine&#8230; It combines beauty and speed together :)&#8230;<br />
Aurora is handsome to see&#8230; but it has to do more if it wants to be a very usable engine&#8230; especially on old machines</p>
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		<title>By: Cimi</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Cimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nodoka is almost murrine engine with a different name (Nodoka), its performance are nearly the same.
If you chose a Murrine theme with rounded borders, you'll see it.

By the way, the problem is not on +1second, -1second etc etc... the thing is that Aurora, for example, is exactly twice slower than murrine with small roudness :)
This will be noticeable when using many windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nodoka is almost murrine engine with a different name (Nodoka), its performance are nearly the same.<br />
If you chose a Murrine theme with rounded borders, you&#8217;ll see it.</p>
<p>By the way, the problem is not on +1second, -1second etc etc&#8230; the thing is that Aurora, for example, is exactly twice slower than murrine with small roudness :)<br />
This will be noticeable when using many windows.</p>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated with xfce engines</description>
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		<title>By: gianvito</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>gianvito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok... I will try as soon as possible to add xfce gtk engines...</description>
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		<title>By: dosnlinux</title>
		<link>http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>dosnlinux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Xfce-gtk-engine?</description>
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